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myke



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:35 pm    Post subject: help sought Reply with quote

Hi,

On the 27th. March 2011 I will be starting the 21 day process.

I am looking for a clear giver. a gentle soul who has been through the process and would be able to guide me.

I have a wonderful care giver already

I was hoping to get dr Michael Werner to agree to help but I have been unable to contact him Sad

I am looking at breatharianism for spiritual and emotional freedom. I have an educated understanding of it all and expect a joyful transition.

if you can help in any way please do get in touch.

with Metta

Myke
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RICKLFF



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: help sought Reply with quote

myke wrote:
On the 27th. March 2011 I will be starting the 21 day process.


Hey myke,

You seems to be very decided to do the 21 days process. But be careful. You said "guide me". As said in Jasmuheen's book (Living on Light), if you feel that you need to be guided, maybe you are not prepared to undergone the 21 days process. It's a process of surrender and trust in your Higher Self and in Divine Intelligence. You must be completely sure that it's what you want and you must be completely sure that you know what you will do. I say that because during this process and after that, your life will be completely changed (extreme sensibility, social exclusion, maybe a thinner body).

myke wrote:
I am looking at breatharianism for spiritual and emotional freedom.

Emotional Freedom ?
What do you mean by that ?
After the process you will be much more sensible, so maybe you will get the opposite that you desire. And if you can't control low vibrations like anger, stress, anxiety and others, you won't be able to keep your vibration in the same level of the light (prana) and then you won't be able to be sustained by it. High vibration attracts a high flux of prana. Breatharianism is not an automatic state of being. It doesn't guarantee that you will be always in high vibration. YOU must guarantee that you are in a high vibration to manage to live on light. When you are in a high vibration, you receive prana and you are nourished, but if your vibration drops, your flux of prana drops too and you become thinner because of the lack of energy and nutrients that the body needs (the flux is not enough intense). I don't intend to be aggressive in any part of this post. Sorry if I seem to say anything aggressively. I'm just saying what I really consider very important to have in mind.


I never went through the 21 days process, but I will when I feel that I'm really prepared. I tried, but after 3 days without water (first week) I stopped, because I was so thin (lost 7 kg in 3 days). Anyway it was a great experience.
My mistake was to not be completely prepared. The 21 days process is a very radical conversion process, so, to manage to do this 21 days process someone must be prepared in all levels as said in Jasmuheen's book Living on Light (physical, emotional, mental and spiritual). So to be prepared, here are the basic requirements in my oppinion:

1) Physical preparation: Doing enough exercise to have a strong body to sustain the prana flux through the body. In addition, the cleaner is the body (toxins), easier will be to pass through the detox phase. Empty the bowels would help a lot.

2) Emotional preparation: Being as much free as possible from emotional attachment to food.

3) Mental preparation: Really believe that the body can be nourished by light (or prana) and read everything related to that. The books that I recommend are:
a) Living on Light (Jasmuheen)
b) Life from Light (Michael Werner & Thomas Stöckli)
c) Life Style Without Food (Joachim M Werdin)
d) Man?s Higher Consciousness (Hilton Hotema)

4) Spiritual preparation: Having a feeling that it?s really what you want to do and feel that when you think about that, your soul smile.

Living on light is not just stopping eating. It?s an spiritual path. It?s a state of being. It?s substitute the food as a source of nutrition by light (or prana). So certify yourself that you know how to get the prana that will nourish you. Methods to receive prana: Meditation, conscious breathing (pranayama), sungazing. Visualization and affirmations also help a lot. Don?t forget that if you stop eating and can not have your nutrition from other source, you may become thinner and thinner. So you need to guarantee that you are prepared in all levels and believe that the light will really nourish you and have some affirmations like: ?I AM unlimited. I AM the perfect manifestation of the omnipotent power, lovely, divine and infinitely benevolent of the universe that feeds me, nourishes me, heals me in all levels, regardless of whether I eat or not?

Never forget to listen and respect your body. It talks to you all the time.
The best tip I can give you is: During the process, if you feel that you won't manage to do the conversion this time, stop the process and prepare yourself during some months to try again later. You must know when you can continue or when it's better to give up this time and try again later when you are better prepared.
But if you are well prepared in all levels, I guess you will have the better experience of your life...
If you can, please share with us your daily experiences during the process. But as I never did the entire process, I can't help you during the 21 days process...


Other sources of information:


SOME PERSONAL EXPERIENCE DIARIES: (read as much 21 days diaries as you can)

21 days process personal experience diary:
http://www.moinhos-velhos.com/21day-process.htm

Personal Experience (this forum):
http://forum.breatharian.info/viewtopic.php?t=616

Personal Experience (in portuguese):
http://www.vivendodaluz.com/PT/21dayprocess/eve.html


INTERVIEWS or ARTICLES (text form):

Interview with a breatharian:
http://www.kheper.net/topics/breatharian/The_Process.html

Article about breatharianism:
http://www.ucmeta.org/Pages/Articles/Breatharianism/Breatharianism-ArticlesX.php


VIDEOS:

Jasmuheen Interview:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7506147092525109281&hl=en&emb=1#

AKAHI, a Breatharian in Vilcabamba:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7506147092525109281&hl=en&emb=1#docid=-8652352369472538310

Jericho Sunfire:A Breatharian Personal Fitness Guru - P1/4:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7506147092525109281&hl=en&emb=1#docid=5200869926157092063

Several seminars:
http://forum.breatharian.info/viewtopic.php?t=556

Jasmuheen video (2 hours):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4088051898577664190#


WEB SITE:

Sungazing site:
http://solarhealing.com/


FORUMS:

Sungazing group:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/sungazing/

Forum about breatharianism in Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=190622060113

Forum about breatharianism in Yahoo Groups:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/breatharian/messages



Blessings
Rick
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JMW



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:27 am    Post subject: Power of IAM Reply with quote

Myke,
this may sound rude to you, but so called 'truth' often is like that.

When some body asks me if they can become an inediate or breatharian, I almost always answer the same -- no.

If they were ready to adjust the body to perfect functioning without inserting any substance (food) inside it, they would have not asked anybody.
In other words, when you KNOW that you have the WILL the POWER or (whatever you call it) to realize the change in the life of you material body, you just make the simple conscious decision and realize it.

The whole process is that simple. And you need no help, nobody's advice etc, because you just KNOW it, and you FEEL clearly that you are the creator of your universe.

As long as you don't know and you are looking for help from other beings, seeking advices etc. you cannot. And the 21 day process or whatever process will give you some experience, will give you knowledge but will not realize what is your uncovered power of creating life.
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myke



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dear Riklff,
thank you so much for your wonderful, considered and helpful reply.

Perhaps "Guide me" was the wrong word, In my heart i know i will need little help but have decided to follow advice from Charmaine Harley and have a clear giver on hand to answer any questions that arise and may be troublesome to those who do not have the experience of the process. I have fully understood your concern and agree that without a 100% certainty in my soul then this process would be impossible.

By emotional freedom (I am an emotional therapist) I believe the transition will place me in a plane of higher consciousness where the wordly winds will have less effect upon me...and indeed as you so rightly say, must be kept in their place less the pranic nourishment fails.

I am grateful for you guidance, and will read the two books you recommend that i have not alreafy read.

Without a doubt, if there is no joy in the transition then I feel that i will have chosen the wrong time.

this is not a "Bungee jump" but the culmination of four years of meditation and de tox, including living in a monastery.

Again thank you SO much for your wonderful reply, and i will certainly keep you posted on my progress, although not during the first week as that is for total solitude and reflection.

with Huge Metta

Myke
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dear JMW,

Thank you too, so much for taking the trouble to reply.

I have devoted most of my life to seeking the truth, over the last four years in an intensive way.

When i stumbled accross Inedia it made my heart sing...but my analytical and scientific brain forced me to gain more information.

Everyone is different in how they assimilate truisms, even if faced by the irrefutable truth of inner certainty...In my heart i really do feel i need no-one at all and have long realised that i am the creator of mykes universe...but i also enjoy the love that others are able to give me.

In moving from darkness into light the aid of one who is in the light is invaluable (but not always necessary, I agree) when the student is ready the teacher will appear, that remains my philosophy.

The strength of your words are very valuable, i do not know you, but have a great respect for your opinion.

Thank you

Namaste

Myke
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RICKLFF



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

myke wrote:
I have fully understood your concern and agree that without a 100% certainty in my soul then this process would be impossible.

Great. So you really understand what I was talking about.

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myke wrote:
By emotional freedom (I am an emotional therapist) I believe the transition will place me in a plane of higher consciousness

I believe that living on light will be a great experience and it will help you a lot as an Emotional Therapist because of the extreme sensitivity. Of course it has two sides. Extreme sensitiveness in general is connected to extreme fragility and susceptibility.

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myke wrote:
I am grateful for you guidance, and will read the two books you recommend that i have not alreafy read.


The book Life Style Without Food (Joachim M Werdin) you can download from the main page of this site at the very bottom:
http://breatharian.info/
A great book, full of very valuable information, kindly allowed to be read free of charge by his author JMV (who also replyed your post)

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The book Life from Light (Michael Werner & Thomas Stöckli) is a scientific approach to Live on Light. It's an experience of a scientist who decided to live on light.
To buy online:
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Light-Possible-Scientist-Experiences/dp/1905570058/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1299663597&sr=1-1

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The book Man?s Higher Consciousness (Hilton Hotema) is a book wrote by a very good researcher who didn't restricted his research to scientific believes, so you will learn a lot from this book too.
To buy online:
http://www.amazon.com/Mans-Higher-Consciousness-Hilton-Hotema/dp/0787304409/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1299663414&sr=1-1
or
http://www.healthresearchbooks.com/pages/books_list.php?origin=author&author=Hotema,%20Hilton
(if you don't live in the USA, be aware of the shipment cost first)

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Another books that could help are:

1) In Resonance (Jasmuheen) - This one helps a lot in energetic level when you are preparing yourself. You can read it online before you buy it:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38125672/Jasmuheen-in-Resonance-2002
Buy online:
http://www.amazon.com/Resonance-Jasmuheen/dp/1847999182/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1299671188&sr=1-2-fkmr0

2) Ambassadors of Light (Jasmuheen)
Buy online:
http://www.amazon.com/Ambassadors-Light-Health-Hunger-Project/dp/1409273229/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1299671246&sr=1-3

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myke wrote:
Without a doubt, if there is no joy in the transition then I feel that i will have chosen the wrong time.

It's 100% correct. Anyway, during the process, if you discover that it's not the right time, the experience of trying was worth by itself. Of course that it's mandatory that someone who decide to do this to be completely aware about what he is doing and when it's time to give up if discovered that it's not the right time.

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myke wrote:
This is not a "Bungee jump" but the culmination of four years of meditation and de tox, including living in a monastery.

So you seems to be the type of person who will be successful in this journey. Don't forget to always ask for help to your inner guidance (protection, remove of blockages, orientation during the process, insights and so on). It's a process of surrender and trust, but never ignore your body messages.

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myke wrote:
i will certainly keep you posted on my progress, although not during the first week as that is for total solitude and reflection.

When I read these words I felt that you know what this process require.

Watching Jasmuheen videos in Youtube will help also:
http://www.youtube.com/jasmuheen#p/u/12/8afhERDfs2o

Here you have a fantastic video about meditation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hynAE-7gMOg

After all recommendations and books, be aware that some people already died doing the 21 days process. They died because of ignoring body signals or because making huge mistakes during the process. Here is a link to the cases. I recommend you to read it.
http://vivendodaluz.com/EN/articles/dancing_with_my_dow.html


Have a nice journey...

Namaste
Rick


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myke



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dear Riklff,
Bless you for taking such trouble to reply and offer such help.
I have taken it all onboard, In particular i am drawn to professor Hotema and will study his work well.
may your life be full of happiness and may joy be your constsant companion
God bless you
Myke
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

myke wrote:
In particular i am drawn to professor Hotema and will study his work well.


He is amazing !!!

A tip: During the 21 days process, don't do anything. You need to save energy. Just rest and relax and appreciate the wonderful feelings. The best travel in my opinion. You will be safe, don't worry. As clean you are before the process, easier it will be. In the previous days try to eat the less you can. What I did was just to drink fruit juices in the last 3 days before the 21 days process, so the detox phase is easier. And I drank as much water I could immediately before the midnight (when the process begins).
Each one has his particular process and every process is different. What happened to me was that I had no energy at all and one night I didn't sleep all night, but the next day I was very well, not sleepy at all, it was amazing.

Namaste
Rick
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent advice ricklf!!! go for it Myke ok,but yes - the advice that you have been given here from JMW and Ricklf is perfect - love Hara.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a video. An interview with Hira Hatan Manek in Portugal, in english:

http://vimeo.com/6135737

Sungazing is a wonderful practice. It's sooo easy to do and so beneficial to the body and to the mind.

Blessings
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All, A great thread here and just remember while the 21 process can be a beautiful sacred experience with many gifts to free us from having to ingest physical food no 21 process is required to be nourished by solely by prana, we are already being nourished by prana, and the more free we are of physical, emotional and mental toxicity the more powerfully the Prana can flow through us and nourish us. As Akahi says every second this Life Force energy (Prana - the force that gives us life) is nourishing us, it is intelligent, loving energy, the main thing is to have trust and faith that it can and will nourish us, I think it is a good idea to clear cellular memory of any negative imprints if we hold beliefs of necessity to eat, I am sure for many of us drawn to this lifestyle we hold with a another lifetime or parallel existence we are already doing this and we can access that and bring into our present consciousness awareness - James
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick, thank you for posting so many references for inedia and taking time to answer so many questions. I feel excited for my own process with so much experience to draw from when questions arise.

JMW, thank you for providing this forum and your amazing research, experience, and support. Thank you for your generosity with LSWF. Just reading your book presented an exciting possibility for something I had long ago desired, but was not yet ready.

Myke, thank you for this great thread. I'm just getting started myself and am very interested in your process.
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