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gisan



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:21 am    Post subject: Mind and Will Reply with quote

Hello Everyone, I want to say Hi to all of You and any Inedians from World around and maybe from Canada ?
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JMW



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:33 am    Post subject: welcome Reply with quote

Cordially welcome.
I know you have a lot to say, also about your experience with fasting, overeating, obesity and indedia.
Please, share with us here.
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gisan



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, as a matter of fact that's true, that I have a lot of personal experience in all that, but it is my own personal experience, which I do not want to share, because of one simple reason. My personal experience can not help others in any way to understand anything, on the other hand I wish I wouldn't not to have all the experiences I went through at least 50% of them. We like to read about other people personal experiences for pleasure and all that is nothing merely but food for our always hungry Human Minds. I came here because this is all about INEDIA ? ...am I right ? ...and I wonder if there are real INEDIANS here, as some people say that there (were ?) are thousands INEDIANS around the World, so I would like to meet some of them if possible. I do not want to talk with them about how they got to the state of being INEDIANS, but how they actually live in that state of INEDIA their every single day of their life. I'm not talking about Breatharians, because we are all Breatharians aren't we ? (don't tell me that you are not Breathing `~((*_*))~`...) I'm also not talking about guys that they are eating solid food and saying "I do not want or need to eat but this I do only for pleasure or experience - that's smells to me like a rotten fish and maybe has something to do with Breatharianizm, but has nothing to do with INEDIA, so let's be not misunderstood.
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PranaChild



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't agree with you more. Sharing experiences is just another way of feeding off each other. I have realized that a long time now.

To be honest, a real inediate would most likely not be on the computer.

I know when I get a long time into the dry fasting, the computer hurts! Damages my aura around my hands when I type.

I'm actually sick of reading about other's paths because I don't want to take it on as my own.

Anyway, nice post and thanks for not sharing much of your experiences :p
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Cameron.NZ



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Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gisan wrote:
We like to read about other people personal experiences for pleasure and all that is nothing merely but food for our always hungry Human Minds.


Hi there,

Not wishing to play 'devil's advocate', however, reading about others' experiences definitely helps me hold my balance more firmly when it comes to this path of prana. My full intention is to become a complete and fully sustained emitter of energy; I'm still in a holding pattern with minimal fluids (1-2 cups daily). And preparing food for my family, and socialising with friends in food-related venues. And sometimes it's really, really challenging to continue to move softly and continually on my path, with so much criticism and judgment swirling around me. So I'm one of those 'lurkers' in this forum who is heartened by reading about the reality of what others are going through.

And you're one of those who has given me hope, PranaChild!! So thank you for your heart, and your words. They definitely assist me!
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PranaChild



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww yeah I actually have enjoyed that part of this path too, sharing with everyone... and the ups and downs of my blog haha!

Ohhh if I were in NZ I'd go frolick in the forest lands with you. I still think it would be sweet as (NZ lingo? hehe) to gather a group of pranics together and go fast and bliss out in the wilderness. Maybe it'll come true...if I don't turn to light first.

Much much love to you Dear <3
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gisan



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

INEDIA to me is nothing more nothing less than a MYTH created just for one purpose to amaze others people with something incredible, marvellous that We as a Human Beings can achieve. All this again is nothing more but a FOOD for Our Hungry Minds. We need that kind of escapes from our daily routine. Yes that's true that our body can survive without fleshly food even for a long period of time, but We Humans have physical limitations because we live in a specific World were everything has restrictions and regulations. Let me point over something, if my desire would be to become an INEDIAN what is the point for me to organize some seminars, charging sometimes those who want attend large sums of money ? To become an INEDIAN is to free yourself from physical objects such as food and mentally to be free from other desires like a greed for things, that's what I think, yet we have found people claiming that they can live without food, but they cannot live without greed for money and fame. They are to me nothing more or less but greedy Breatharians. You're right Prana Child real INEDIANS if they really exist you will rather never heard of them and from them, especially through the internet.
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PranaChild



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm starting to realize again and again that this path leads to the ultimate nirvana or Brahman, end of birth/death cycle. Out of Samsara. I just know in a few days of not eating or drinking I look around not desiring anything, and what has "amused" me one day, like a song or something, I can be repulsed/not interested at all the next. And also, I don't like talkin. Talking to me is ego-ish. Anyone else feel that? All I know is I go into states of bliss that are indescribable. Like my core is just on fire and I just feel all my organs readjusting in there, which leads only to more bliss/clarity/heightened state of awareness/consciousness. It becomes a real bugger to continue workin a job/listening to someone else's orders, etc. And also people coming at you wanting your energy or really wanting you to lower your vibration to be one of "them." I think this ultimately drives one to break the fast.
I really do get why people go into solitude and work on their process. Gisan yes, this too is all mind food. I think I summed up everything by now.
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gisan



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:31 am    Post subject: environment - prana Reply with quote

Personally I do not believe in any kind of pranic nourishment or cosmic energy, or being fed by love or light. People being in the state of INEDIA do not really recognize what nourish them, what provides the energy they need to be alive. So they trying to guess based on previous experiences, while they were eating fleshly food that they still need food to be fed and they just trying to guess what that can be. Or they are told by others what that might be (seminars, books). So some of them say that their body is using one of the pranic elements such as mentioned above (prana, light, love, etc.)

I was in the state of INEDIA one month without any preparation, drinking only 100 ml water a day. I did really not know what kept me alive and full of energy. I was doing for that time period some sun-gazing, inspired by HRM who finally came to be a fraud. I did a lot of running 20 km a day. I can say that more energy I used, spent, the more energetic I was. That's all. Environment we live in is an important and matters, but I was living at that time in a city (500 thousand populated), were cars and all that nasty urban pollution can offer. INEDIA to me is nothing more, nothing less that a state of mind, all there is all the environment you need for that.

Belief can be a strange thing, but still We all live a life adjusted to our beliefs. Old scriptures says that men lives by its faith and what he believes in, that is true. There is no absolute truth, but only that kind of truth we believe in. So to me the puzzle is solved. We can be in the state of INEDIA anywhere, because we believe that we can live without eating fleshly food.


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Merolos



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very interesting bro...pretty much like the " mind creates matter" concept. I wonder if as you say then we're all the imagination of ourselves, and we can live a wonderful or shitty life, depending on our state of mind. Btw, what you mean when you say your inedia state required no preparation? you didnt need any transition to a fruitarian/liquidarian diet or something like that? you didnt suffer from any detox effect whatsoever? you just quitted food cold turkey and went on 100 ml water everyday for 30 days? all you did was makin sure in your mind that it isnt food nourishing us? any drastic weight loss/physical body change? how did the whole story affect your mental/spiritual attitude? have you gone back eating after those 30 days? please tell us Smile
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Cameron.NZ



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to know the answers, too... wish it could be that simple as 'mind over matter' for me, wow -- it gives me hope when Genesis Sunfire says it's taken 18 years for him to transition to food free, because it's such a process in my life. And I have to say, the more time I spend deeply in quiet, in nature, the more joy is showing up in my body, the more softness and flexibility there is in my desire to live and breathe life without external 'feeding' sources..

Thanks, all of you, for your paths and journeys; reading your words really helps me hold on more firmly to my knowing that this is the way for this body to exist.. Smile

Dancing in joy today!!!
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gisan



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so sorry folks, but like I did mention earlier, I do not want to share my experiences and now I will explain why. You can not (or can you ?) follow someones experiences to achieve your desire, in that case to become an INEDIAN. With all due respect, this is just imitating and how can you possibly live your life using someones experiences ? I just mentioned what happened with me and this is my personal, private experience. Do you want to build on my or someone else experience, your path do become an INEDIAN ?....Our mind needs more food than our stomach and never rests.
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gisan



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:27 am    Post subject: State of Inedia Reply with quote

It happened again... all of a sudden and so unexpected, the Almighty State of Inedia...hit and strike me again. I don't know how long will last... it's different then last time, some years ago, but with same similarities. As all of you know I have very weak will power and I'm ready to go back to eating solid food any time ? and all this is not by my power if I have any. First time to my consciousness came something that probably I could share that experience...this time with all of you just as some kind of WARNING - in the subject of using someones experiences in that matter which is... I call it... the matter of life and death. But I'm not so sure if I will or if I can do that, because I don't want to create some kind of fuss or sound mercenary. What 's your opinion ?
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JMW



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: State of Inedia Reply with quote

Dear gisan,
concerning your inedia, please share more and even all about what is happening to you, what you feel now, what is occurring in your mind etc.
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