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jstern1028



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:27 pm    Post subject: Trying to find the next step Forward Reply with quote

Greetings everybody,

I am new to this forum. Here is my story and adventure, trials and tribulations. I have some questions that I hope perhaps somebody could help me with as I try to move forward on this.

I am just about 60 years old. I've been a vegetarian for most of the last 40 years with a very strong attraction to raw foods although I've never really been able to make it work for any extended amount of time. And yet, when I do make it work, I feel great although I have trouble keeping my weight on. I am 5 feet 10 inches and weigh just over a hundred and twenty pounds.

Also, for years now more or less, I have been doing a Sundown to sundown fast every 7 to 10 days. On those days, I feel great. My mind is clear, the same with my emotions; and physical ailments usually clear up in those few hours. Furthermore, during those times, especially the day of the fast in the first day or two afterwards, I really, really get it that it is possible to live on light. There is an Infinity in every particle of the universe and why can we not convert that Infinity into energy in our own bodies rather than living off this material substance? That is the question I Ponder.

For the first day or two after my periodic fast I feel great, and then I gradually move towards eating more and more cooked foods and a diet not as healthy although it is still better than 99% of the population out there. Plus, I believe I am not engaged in emotional eating, My mind gradually gets foggy or I don't feel as good and then I noticed I'm too fast again in the cycle repeats itself, over and over. I should mention that I'm a long, long time and regular meditator so, obviously, that is where a lot of these insights come from.

Anyway I'm trying to break out of this pattern and take it to the next step of living on light. For instance, yesterday I just finished the one day fast. As I write this, I?m intent on doing raw foods as usual, living on love, living on light, and yet, realistically history has another say about my pattern.

I appreciate any thoughts and comments you might have to offer in terms of insight or taking it to the next step.

Thank you,
John

ps: Now (after having written the above) I have gone through a few posts at this forum and can see that a lot, if not most of us, are trying to figure it out. I believe we can. The story behind the famous channeled work "A Course in Miracles" is that two people came together, agreed there must be a better way (in this case it was about relationships), and decided to find that way. Shortly after that, the channeling commenced.
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Candid



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John!

I've just signed up here myself and can identify with much of what you wrote, although I'm asking for advice and encouragement myself.

Your basic lifestyle viz. diet and meditation sounds very good, as does your statement that your eating is not the 'emotional' kind. I can't make any of those claims for myself.

All I can tell you is that if I were able to fast for 24 hours and feel great, I would extend it indefinitely! That's my plan now, although my recent failure was about fasting and feeling like hell.

I'm 60ish too, and I wish you luck with this.
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Awareness



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very difficult to afford to eat all raw on less than 100 a day if u want quality food. It's a big problem. Even eating 100% raw for a few years is huge. But ppl fasting brings instability. But need break from addictive cookery. Difficult times we live
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awareness wrote:
But ppl fasting brings instability.


Would you care to elaborate?

Seems to me, when we remove the need to eat -- or at least, not eat three times a day every day, with snacks in between -- we feel safer and more stable (and maybe smug!) When I did it for a month experimentally, I was infinitely calmer, and slept better.

I agree buying all-raw is expensive. Reading every label to avoid additives, wanting 'pure' water and all that palaver is too much for me.

I aim to go with what feels best at the time. Sometimes that's a double-scoop of blackcurrant ice-cream, others it's two celery sticks.

Not eating at all -- at least for a while -- feels right to me.
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hal



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Trying to find the next step Forward Reply with quote

John,

The next step forward for you might be to concentrate on expanding your consciousness. That's where I myself am right now.
My choices of food to 'live on' while I am pursuing Inedia is different than most.
I am a low-carb fan, and dietdoctor.com can really help with eliminating sugar, which I'm sorry, is really bad for humans (in excess).

By low carb, I am pretty much ketogenic (less than 20 grams of carbs a day). That diet keeps me at a stable weight while I concentrate on expanding my conscious life, which will lead to Inedia.

Inedia is Fasting in latin, but what does Fasting itself mean? A couple of definitions exist. Holding fast, not letting go... the one I like is 'a fortress'. When we fast, we become a fortress from the world, with no outside influences to rely on. We rely on ourselves, our will, mind, prana -- our inner life.

I'm rambling, but all the best in your continuing efforts.

Hal
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Trying to find the next step Forward Reply with quote

I like the way you think, hal. To be a fortress, strengthened from the mind... that sounds good to me.

When I fast, I drink water and plenty of it. I don't see myself becoming a breatharian but I'd like to lose my addiction to food... and other less savoury things.
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LightLovePeace777



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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, although, breatharianism isn't a new idea to me. I had been a raw vegan in the mid 1990s through 2002 and had heard about breatharianism during that time. I hadn't attempted to achieve it, but I did do a lot of juice fasts...my longest being 40 days.

I started having health issues in early 2002, because veganism wasn't sustaining me; so I started to consume animal-based foods once again, which quickly turned the health issues around. For the past 2-1/2 years, I've been a 'dirty' carnivore (not 100%), as I do include minute amounts of plant matter in the form of decaf coffee, condiments, honey and sugar, as well as some dairy products.

I'll be turning 58 years young this July, and I've been on the path of expanding within the Consciousness for many years, which began in my vegan days. It's been an on again, off again path, which I've been on again for a while now and recently was led back to the idea of inedia/breatharianism as a lifelong reality.

I have experience with dry fasting, and the longest I've gone without food and water was 7 days comfortably. From my very first experience with it,
it felt completely natural.

How has your journey been these past couple of years, John? Any progress?


Like you, Hal, my main focus is expanding within the Consciousness which is laying the groundwork for inedia to become my reality.

My realization about 'bad, unhealthy' food and everything else in this life that is tagged with that label is that nothing, no-thing is 'bad, unhealthy', because it is ALL One. The One Consciousness is not 'bad, unhealthy', so I cannot be such. Same as there are no 'bad' human beings in my life. Only if I allow such by believing it to be true can it be.

Mind to matter is a powerful thing, when I release all beliefs. Hence, the floodgates are opened up to my limitless power. My attention and daily practice has been spent on this aspect of my IAM for a majority of my time, which entails redirecting any negative thinking to positive thinking. I always have that option of flipping to the opposite side of the coin, whenever I will it.

I do like what you shared about the meaning of fasting. I'll take the 'outside influences' one step further by perceiving the fortress idea, where outside influences cannot penetrate, shake or make me falter, once I do go within (inner life) and rely solely on the Consciousness for sustenance.

How's your journey been going, Hal? And Candid?

This is a magical journey we're all on, and I'm thrilled to be sharing with you all and hearing about everyone's personal journey.

Light, Love, Peace <3

Éva

"Silence is as deep as eternity, speech as shallow as time." ~ Thomas Carlyle
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to 'meet' you, Eva!

I am presently limiting myself to raw fruits and vegetables, and lots of water.

When I quit smoking and coffee I'll stop eating, and stick with it (water-only) as long as it feels good. I did that once for a month and would have liked to continue, so I'll just see what happens.

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Mind to matter is a powerful thing, when I release all beliefs. Hence, the floodgates are opened up to my limitless power.


I look forward to that! Have felt the same way, but a very long time ago. I'm 64 years young and expect to 'youth' myself after decades of bad behaviour. Laughing
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Hélene



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings jstern1028

My thoughts on the recurrence of your pattern is that you may not listen enough to your body.

Many people who made a slow progression often indicates that the progression is almost natural. The body win itself slowly. So at one point you find yourself not wanting cook food, and then not wanting solid food, etc.

So assuming you are already doing your part in meditation, maybe you need to check the way your are eating. It seems that one of the important parts of the path is conscious eating and understanding what our body really need. When we learn to listen to our body, we can see when we eat by habit, by compulsion, for comfort, etc., which in turn allows us to free ourselves of them.

So in short, I would suggest you go deeper into conscious eating.

Best,
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