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Fasting experience, then and now. Suggestions welcome!

 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:07 am    Post subject: Fasting experience, then and now. Suggestions welcome! Reply with quote

When I was a schoolgirl in the early '70s a gym teacher introduced me to yoga because I lacked the confidence and co-ordination for sports and gymnastics. I bought a few books, and in one by Indra Devi I read about fasting as a wonderful cure-all. I was particularly intrigued by the claim that people were alive and alert after 60 days without any food.

In 1975 my parents took my two younger siblings for a five-week holiday, leaving me alone in the house. As soon as their plans were in place I had my own plan. I was impatient for them to go!

My mother had stocked the fridge for me. I put all the meat into the freezer and progressively fed the vegetable matter to my brother's pet rabbit. From the time they left, I ingested nothing but water.

IT FELT GREAT!

I continued going to my office job five days a week. It was winter and I remember feeling the cold more than usual, but extra clothing took care of that. Also, I've always had low blood pressure and had to be careful about standing up too quickly. Apart from that, it was a very positive experience. When other people ate fragrant cooked lunches at their desks, I just wondered where all the food was going. I don't remember any hunger pangs.

What I remember most is the beautiful calm. I didn't want it to end, but a few days before my family's return I reluctantly broke the fast. I knew my parents wouldn't tolerate a non-eating daughter. Sad

I should mention, at 19 I'd already acquired the 'social' habits of drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes. I stopped both of these without even thinking about it when I fasted, then resumed them afterwards. Rolling Eyes

A few months ago I came across JMW's work and knew this was something I wanted to do again.

Difficulties

This time around I'm married, and no longer fully employed. My husband was at first inclined to join me but soon changed his mind when he realised how much of his/our social world fitted around eating and drinking.

I became awkward about committing to social occasions. This wasn't an issue at 19, with a structured work environment in which lunch was a practicality rather than the main focus.

I can manage very well without alcohol, but coffee and cigarettes have a greater hold on me now than I was prepared to admit. As I cut down my eating preparatory to fasting, my consumption of these nasties crept up. Within hours I was very irritable, the polar opposite of my earlier experience. Couldn't even stand myself, so it was back to eating.

Start date

My best friend is remarrying next month. There's to be a wedding lunch and an evening barbecue.

We've booked a week's holiday for the beginning of October. At this stage I hope to be in a position to get started right after that.

Question

How come I dropped the addictions along with the food in 1975, and went the other way this time? I'm hoping it's a mind trick that can be fixed with visualisation. Can I do it all at the same time again? I'd LIKE that. Very Happy

I know other people here have wrestled with similar issues and would love to know what you think. I'm hoping this thread will be a journal of my path to non eating, whether long- or short-term.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:55 pm    Post subject: good luck Reply with quote

That's a tough one. I quit smoking (again) a couple of years ago after having quit for 20 years before that. I finally just gave myself permission to make the hard choice of quitting. I know that sounds simple but it worked for me. When the cravings hit, I just said 'no, I don't have to give in anymore. I have permission to do the right thing'. Just decide in your mind and you can make it so. All the best.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply, hal. I was beginning to think Nobody Comes Here Any More. Sad

We're off for our holiday on Tuesday. I'll be so happy to get started on this in the last few days before we come back. I plan to cut down everything gradually while we're away.

I know my husband will put the pressure on me to buy duty-free cigarettes, ironically because he hates to see me burning money...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm disappointed with myself. Joachim was right when he said you need to give up addictions (other than food) before you try fasting.

My 45-year addiction to cigarettes made a mess of my efforts.

I have not given up giving up...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must say you lot haven't been very encouraging.

Then again, a deeply felt desire for inedia is a personal decision, isn't it.

I'll keep my journal going here for a while longer. There's nowhere else to put it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I now have to admit I'm in a bad way.

It's not about fasting. I haven't got that far.

I'm permanently exhausted, weepy, angry and lacking energy.

I've gained a lot of weight in the past couple of years, have given up exercise and get breathless just walking around or climbing a few stairs.

Both my husband and my therapist say fasting is a bad idea. They subscribe to "you must eat to live" and haven't had the experience I've had.

My husband keeps buying food for me, a lot of it junk food that he knows I can't normally resist.

Well, this is as bad as I'm prepared to let things get..
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm feeling better today. Will continue to update.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I began preparing myself for a water fast last Saturday (April 27) when I realised my insistence on "doing it all at once" was the problem. I'm no longer 19! and I have a number of (mental-emotional and physical) health issues now, all of which I hope will be cured or ameliorated by a prolonged water fast.

Because I've failed to stop drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes, the step-down may take some time. However, I'm insisting on eating nothing but fruit and such fresh vegetables as don't need cooking.

I was doing and feeling well until Wednesday, when we attended the funeral of one of my husband's relatives. He asked me how I would cope with the wake. I said I would be fine, there was bound to be a salad of some kind on the menu and I would not eat anything that wan't Raw Fresh.

Unfortunately the event was catered so there was no menu. I walked slowly along the long table, chiefly denuding the plates of their garnish. People we sat with didn't notice.

I should add that I've become accustomed to early nights and an afternoon nap since I started this step-down to non-eating. What can I tell you? The wake went on too long for me. My husband was busy catching up with those family members he sees only at funerals these days. The second time I went to the long table I was less choosy; and the third time I even picked up something that contained meat! Then I was right off the rails and proceeded to drink (alcohol) as well.

It took until yesterday for me to get back on track: no breakfast, fresh fruit taken with me to work, and a salad in the evening. That feels much better.

I don't know how long it will be before I can stop eating, only that it must be delayed until such time as I have stopped smoking.

I should add that my husband doesn't want me to fast, and will sabotage my efforts whenever he can.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 2:30 pm    Post subject: What's wrong with me... Reply with quote

Thought I should list the things I hope to improve in an extended water fast.

    Thinning hair
    Visual problems: myopia for most of my life, and now cataracts
    Skin constantly dry, no matter how much water I drink. Itchy rash
    Tinnitus, worse in the right ear
    Weight gain, limiting what I can wear of my present wardrobe
    Lack of energy


Above all I have Complex PTSD, presently being treated by a therapist who includes EMDR occasionally. Cptsd includes a lot of subsidiary issues that are routinely misdiagnosed because the complex variant is not officially (in the DSM) recognised, despite acknowledgment of the condition by the World Health Organisation.

I have an acquired brain injury since falling off my pushbike, going downhill at speed (out of control) and landing on my head. That was three and a half years ago. At the time I had facial reconstructive surgery. My confidence plummeted and I no longer ride a bike. My life seems to have fallen apart since then.

So that's me, something of a basket case with chronic procrastination.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still on it and off it. Don't know why this is so hard. Habit, I suppose.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ten months since I started this thread. The time's gone so quickly.

I've used up nearly all my perishables, still have some grapes and a coconut for tomorrow. We're out for dinner tomorrow night, my swan song.

Water fast starts Sunday.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DAY ONE:

I'm surprised I feel this good. Last time I tried this, I lay in bed for ages wondering how I could get up without having a cup of coffee and a cigarette. I got really depressed, so around mid-day I got up and did my usual self-destructive things. Embarassed

For some reason I was able to get up without thinking too much about it today. I think last night's restaurant meal helped a lot. I am well-rested.

My fresh foodstuffs are all used up. So far I've been able to resist coffee, and I have more energy than usual, am tackling a lot of things around the home that I'd been neglecting for ages.

I have not eaten this morning and don't intend to.
I'm drinking lots of water.
I need to keep busy, but that isn't a problem.
I will absolutely (this is a HOLY VOW!) stay away from caffeine in all its seductive forms.
I still have some cigarettes. That will be the last thing to go...
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