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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Prahlad Jani -- a copy of an article. Reply with quote

Living on air; medical tests on saint suspended
Thursday, 27 November , 2003, 17:42 (from http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13319688)

Living on air; medical tests on saint suspended Thursday, 27 November Ahmedabad: Medical tests to determine the veracity of a claim of a saint subsisting without food or water for the past 65 years were suspended as the hospital authorities found the heavy rush of devotees for "darshan" disrupting the procedure.

Clad in women's attire, Prahlad Jani or 'Mataji' as he is popularly known, carries a trident. He belongs to the temple town of 'Ambaji,' about 150 km north of Ahmedabad.

The 76-year-old Jani is believed to have spent most of his time meditating in the caves of Ambaji. He claims to have received divine blessings when he was eight and since then his need for food and water have disappeared.

Mataji's' medical observation for 11 days at Sterling hospital from November 12 had aroused the curiosity of the medical faternity here. Even New Delhi's Defence Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences (DIPAS) and Association of Physicians of Ahmedabad had evinced interest in the observation.

Speaking to UNI, the Director of Sterling Hospital Dr V N Shah said during the observation period of 11 days the saint did not pass urine or stool, nor did he take a single morsel of food or drink a drop of water.

"A normal human being can remain without urinating for a maximum of seven days, after which they are bound to suffer from renal failure," opines Dr Sudhir V Shah, in-charge of the observation.

"He had shown evidence of formation of urine, which seemed to be re-absorbed from his bladder wall. However, the present committee does not have any scientific explanation for the same," he added.

"The observations ere conducted to find the scientific truth behind Jani's ability and to see if such abilities can be replicated in other humans," Dr Shah said.

"The 11-day observation, however, do not justify his claims that he has been living without food or water for the past 65 years," he added.

The team of doctors monitoring the 'mythical Mataji' are now planning to resume their observations in the near future.

Giving details, Dr Shah said Jani had been under observation from November 12. He was kept in a specially prepared room enclosed in glass. The toilet was sealed off. His activities were monitored round-the-clock through two cameras kept in the room and with security posted outside the room. Hospital staff, on a rotational basis, stayed inside the room all the time.

"However, he was allowed free movement in the room and was allowed to offer prayers as per his requirement," he added.

"Initially the attempt was to monitor Jani for seven days but his excellent health allowed us to prolong our observation. But the mad rush of visitors seeking 'darshan' at the hospital forced us to discharge him after 11 days. He walked out of the hospital in fine health," said Dr V N Shah.

"The results of the first phase of observation, though inconclusive can be summed up as: Jani remained fit and survived his 11 days of observation, he did not take food or water in any form, his blood pressure and pulse were within the physiological range of a normal human, the observation revealed that Jani had an extraordinary ability to stay alive for prolonged periods without eating or drinking," Dr Shah said.

"His biological organs and systems are in far better shape than those of people of his age," he added.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This fellow is interesting. From time to time I've been searching google about him. Mostly I've got same few articles but issued by another source. All of them were saying how he lives without food and water, and has been examined by doctors.
Then I found this one: http://skepdic.com/news/newsletter34.html
Scroll down a bit, it's under Gullibility of the week award.
I'm trying to say that "external" information can be tricky. Even the "internal" one. That's way I feel like this - I don't know if Prahlad is really living without food or water. I don't know if JMW, or any other claimed inediate, is able to live on light. It's not that I don't believe this. It's simply that I don't care. It makes no difference to me. All I know is that I have some "internal" source within me saying to go towards inedia. And listening to internal sources can also be misleading. You know what I mean: "Is that my fear and conditioning here, or am I relaxed and being in peace for whatever I am doing?".
Maybe one can say: "but if there are more inediates it would be easier for me to achieve it also... from the aspect of global consciousness that impacts everybody". So what? Let's just examine the case I'm the only one. So that case would be extremely difficult... no backup in thoughts/intention from anyone. But would it be extremely difficult? You cannot tell. Maybe it wouldn't. There is more to this world than our thoughts/intentions. More than emotions, intuition, feelings, ideas... etc. All this is just us trying to explain something we cannot because we don't posses tools to describe it. It is just my mind that sets the rule "more people in this with me - it's easier from the aspect of global consciousness". And that's just one aspect. Not to mention that I haven't touched the term "easier" here. What's easier? What's heavier? Those terms exist only in my mind, only when I try to compare to others. And comparing to others has very little energetic efficiency. Because I know very little about other people. I don't have their bodies, minds, emotions, experiences... etc. Therefore I'm mostly wasting energy when doing comparison. Greatest energetic efficiency I experienced so far is focusing to myself. Cleaning my own yard. And here we come to another issue - such attitude is perceived like selfishness by most other people. I feel that dealing with such perception is one of the obstacles for any aspiring inediate. You cannot explain to such people you are not selfish. Either they see it, or not. If they see it, they wouldn't be calling you selfish in a first place.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: FEAR!!! Reply with quote

YEP - FEAR IS ONE OF THE MOST PARALYZING OF HUMAN EXPERIENCES,NOT JUST IN RELATION TO THE WHOLE PROCESS OF FOOD TO PRANIC NOURISHMENT TO BREATHARIANISM,BUT FOR LIFE IN GENERAL,AND SOCIETY LIVES TOTALLY IN FEAR OF LETTING GO OF ATTACHMENTS TO DESIRES,FOOD,WEALTH,E.T.C,E.T.C, - GO IN TO THE KIDNEYS MY FRIEND,GET RID OF YOURS AND OTHERS FEARS AND TRAVEL BLISSFULLY IN TO FREEDOM,THAT'S MY ADVICE,BUT IT MAY ALSO BE CRAP FOR YOU,WHO KNOWS?...LOVE AND LIGHT - HARA NAMAH Rolling Eyes Wink Razz Shocked Confused Cool Laughing Surprised Smile Very Happy Question Idea Arrow Exclamation Mr. Green
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