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Jordan



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Alternative Nourishment (non-eating) Reply with quote

Hello,
I first started to research the possibility of living without eating almost 2 years ago. It was all theory until now. I now have much scientific evidence that can demonstrate how this is all achieved. I may write a paper if I think the public would benefit from the knowledge...I am still thinking about that...there is the possibility that the true knowledge could be abused by corrupt humans. Funny thing is that all the science has already been demonstrated and is in plain view; but the goal was in all these studies something different...so they never saw it.

I am now at this time able to stop eating forever if I wish...a nice feeling of freedom. Sometime this year or 2009 I will end eating forever. It real is nothing amazing; it only seems to be fantastic to the person who is unaware of the truth. One thing that I would like to know is who started the great lies of this world?? As a criminologist I can see that it was put together by someone very-very smart who thought it out perfectly and thus so far has been very successful. How long has the lie been happening? Is the originator a human? Still alive? Must have hated all humans. Or is it just a form of control? But why? What human benefits? None would because they would also die because of the lie. Or is there an evil group who know the truth? If so we are in trouble. Or is it not a human who originated the lie; if so we are in trouble. Should I even post this info, a risk? Yes? But the lie is very powerful...so not such as risk that it would concern the liar.
Sincerely,
Jordan
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skyhigh



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

** One thing that I would like to know is who started the great lies of this world??

i don't see anyone lying here. i do not assume a conspiracy. i believe eating was a natural process and we are now receiving higher options... living on love... breatharianism... inedia... why not just appreciate it, be thankful and integrate these miracles of life. explore the potential it holds and share it with the world as she asks and is open for it....

for peace on earth... miriam :)
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Jordan



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Conspiracy Reply with quote

I do see a conspiracy regarding eating. From my studies I have found that eating is main reason we age and die. Twisted Evil

There is NO food that is NOT toxic.

This is why you start to heal when you fast. All cells in the body are potentially immortal - they only die when the toxic wastes accumulate within the cell cytoplasm from eating food.

The body can assimilate all it needs from the environment via the skin and lungs after special pysical training; and new Thinking. Finding out what that involves is part of the journey & creates the New Thinking.

When Adam ate the apple or whatever food it was he started to poison his body and eventually died. Very Happy

Aging is not normal and eating is not normal and it is only there to control and destroy us.
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André K.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Conspiracy Reply with quote

Hi Jordan,

you wrote: "All cells in the body are potentially immortal - they only die when the toxic wastes accumulate within the cell cytoplasm from eating food."

There seems to be a way to clean your cells from toxic waste accumulations by eating food. And it is claimed, that it is even more effective than fasting. Read my post about the "Metusaleh diet" for more information.
From my experience I can only tell you that it seems to be very effective, at least for me. But I havenīt fasted and canīt compare it.

Itīs interesting that you think of eating and dying from eating as a conspiracy.
How did you find out that you wonīt die if you donīt eat and as a conclusion of that, that you donīt need to eat?
When did you get the first grasp about this idea?


Peace be with you!

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Jordan



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Conspiracy Reply with quote

Hi André,

There is much more to immortality or life extension then just not eating - but not eating is number 1. I'm starting a book on this as I need to put all the info together. The process of eating causes massive damage to the human, DNA fragmentation, free radicals, cellular garbage are just a few things; eating causes a cascading snow ball effect of damages; in that the body goes into defense mode when the complex life forms (food) are placed into the body with all their toxins and poisons must be dealt with in order to avoid instant death. This weakens the immune system and all other vital systems of the body. I do have a lot of scientific documentation on this which I'll reference in my book. There are several substances that can be placed into the body that seem to have only beneficial effects on the body but these substances don't fall under the common known understanding of what people would call food; they could be classified as supplements.

The body is in a constant state of healing when it switches to fasting mode & is working hard to remove toxins that arrives mostly from eating. They have recorded in experiments that the body aging actually reverses greatly while fasting - in some tests the old animals when placed on a long fast were basically reborn and started its life over again from youth. This is evident that if you remove the poison (food) the body starts to try and go back to normal. Most people must resume eating after fasting for 30 - 60 days or they will die. However, when your thinking changes (programing) via truth (true knowledge) and real practice you find that the body will adapt to its new lifestyle. You can try this yourself with fasting. A new faster will lose 1.5-2 pounds of weight per day. This will be the case for about 1 or 2 years during periodic fasting. However, certain experienced fasters can fast for a week and lose no weight - the body has adjusted! The body can make great adjustments when given a reason and the body can live a very - very long time. We are not meant to start falling apart at age 70 or 80 like the humans of our time do today; knowledge of how to live has been kept from us and we have been in the dark for a long time to protect the interest of commercialism. Many people ask me why then don't we see any people living for several hundred or thousands of years? I'm not sure someone would want to announce to the world that they are 700 years old or more; additionally I don't think there are very many who were dedicated enough to the required lifestyle to live so long. I think many might have the knowledge but don't follow it as it is a very difficult task. To me I believe there is nothing more important then life - and the most important goal for all humans should be to conquer death and learn to love.
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Jordan
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JMW



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Conspiracy Reply with quote

Jordan wrote:
I'm starting a book on this as I need to put all the info together.
Please, share the book content also here. Every chapter can be in form of one new topic on this forum.

Jordan wrote:
However, certain experienced fasters can fast for a week and lose no weight - the body has adjusted!
Like my wife, for example, fasting for 3 weeks and loosing only 2 kg.
In every case it is always the same: The body is a product of the mind, build by the mind and living only in the mind. Your body is a picture in your mind.

Jordan wrote:
The body can make great adjustments when given a reason and the body can live a very - very long time.
Sure, since the body is in the mind and is sustained by the mind, it will last as longa as one keeps the picture of his body liveing.
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Malika



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there - Here are two programs you might find helpful, the main program is said twice a day with sincerity, conviction and much FEELING!!!!! The affirmations are to be saturated into your mind/body with continuous repetition wherever possible, again with feeling.

PERFECT WEIGHT
I share my own personal program
?I, <your name> am stabilised at my perfect weight. I am nourished purely by the prana flow which is the true nourishment of everyone on the planet, without prana we would be lifeless. I affirm in my mind and body it is not how much or how little we eat that determines our weight. Rather it is our subconscious programming regarding eating that determines our weight. I now incubate an image of myself being strong, fit, muscular, glowing with radiant health on all levels regardless of whether or not I eat, sleep, drink, meditate and exercise. I give my body?s intelligence a program to be my perfect weight and image whether I eat or not and for my body to take all its nourishment for perfect health on all levels directly from the prana flow. My cells are loved and healthy and happy and love feeding from prana. Thank you, thank you, thank you.?
Gaining/Maintaining healthy weight and strength everyday
Perfect Radiant Health being nourished by prana
I eat for pleasure only ? all my nourishment comes from Prana
e.g. Strong, healthy bones being nourished by Prana
e.g. Strong, healthy muscles being nourished by Prana etc.
e.g. Liver ? Clear, clean, bright, filled with prana nourishing Light
e.g. Cardiovascular system - Clear, clean, bright, filled with prana nourishing Light etc.
Optimum cellular nutrition from Prana Now
I am a radiant being filled with life energy
I am radiant, vibrant, attractive, energetic, filled with youthful vitality, strong, fit and healthy (whether I eat or not)



The below is taken from Anne Marie Evers great book: "Affirmations - Your Passport to Happiness" with a few minor additions of my own.
BECOMING YOUNGER

?I, <your name> deserve to be and now look, feel and am 20 years younger, in truth I am no particular age. I am not a chronological age, neither am I a biological age, I am an eternal being of Love and Light. The beauty and perfection of my soul radiates through my cellular and physical structures. I concentrate and focus on having a mindset of playfulness and youthful vitality. Any thoughts of the number of years, labels, being a senior or programming of age, breakdown and decay leave my consciousness and cellular programming forever now. I change my subconscious and conscious programming to health, happiness, longevity, continual rejuvenation Now! My pituitary gland and all of the glands of my body obediently and lovingly carry out my instructions from this moment on to produce and secrete glorious rejuvenation hormones delivering radiant heath to every single cell of my body. Every cell, tissue, organ, bone and every part and system of my body and being is brand new, functioning optimally and now rejuvenating, regenerating, energising and becoming younger and younger. The radiance of youth and beauty saturate my whole being. I am filled with ever-increasing, everlasting, ever-expanding beauty, strength, vibrant health, aliveness, youthfulness and joy. I have all the time in the world. Thank you, thank you, thank you.?
Always maintaining glowing, radiant, youthful vitality.
Becoming younger and younger all the time


With Love
Malika




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Jordan



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Scientific Terms Reply with quote

I don?t feel comfortable stating much information scientifically at this time. There is so much data about this. I want to help. I?ll probably regret it.

I?m willing to say 1 word for now.


Transparency.
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Draginvry



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could spend your whole life studying eating and still not have enough data.

Trust me.
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RICKLFF



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:29 am    Post subject: Information Reply with quote

Hi All,

What is/was your source of information ?
What books did you buy to study about food and about living on light ?

Namaste
Rick
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Bhairavananda



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:50 am    Post subject: Hi! Reply with quote

Hey Rickllf - are you online right now? - wow - if you are! - hey Jordan - what's the use of posting here and then saying that you don't know whether or not to "present" the information - no offence,that just sounds a bit paranoid mate! and "transparency" - didn't you once say that you don't know what all the fuss is about the spiritual aspects of Living on light/Breatharianism is all about? seriously dude,no offence,as i think it would be interesting to know more about your journey,but i have no idea where you are coming from and actually,quite frankly,would like to know as i feel as though you possibly have some great stuff to share - yes - the public are robots,yes - people are killing themselves inadvertently by stuffing their faces 24/7,yes - i could go on but there is no conspiracy as far as we are concerned here in our realities of either living on Light(in all it's forms!) or transitioning or whatever...please share here,otherwise what's the point? love and light - Hara Bhairava.
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Malika



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All ?

It?s strange - Some say Living on Light is nonsense, yet to me there are a lot of books out there in bookshops on the subject of nutrition I would say are nonsense, I remember reading a quote and can?t remember where but it was something along the lines of ?there is more nonsense written about nutrition than any other subject?. I couldn?t agree more! Many of the books out there, no doubt written by well-meaning authors, telling us we need to eat a so called balanced diet from the so called five food groups ( or 3 or 4 or however many there are these days) it is such an old and boring paradigm. Of course this is not say there are some great nutritional books out there on the benefits of going vego and raw food etc; such as Steve Arlin and David Wolfe, Gabriel Cousen?s fantastic Rainbow Diet book plus others. Both David Wolfe and Gabriel Cousen?s books allude to inedia ? pranic nourishment which I recommend if either you just want to have a high energy pure diet or use a transition diet to gradually eating less and less while tuning to absorb nourishment from prana for those who feel the 21 day is to extreme or can?t do it for whatever reason at this time.

For me I find the alignment and harmonising of the physical, emotional, mental and spiritual energy fields as Jasmuheen writes about in her book ?In Resonance? and aligning them to our Inner God ? the Divine One Within - and the Prana Zone, as I like to call it, meaning the inner planes, really does bring us our desires, be it Love, Health, Wealth, perfect career, whaever, when we work with the Law of Attraction and we are plugged into Universal Intelligence. Really it?s true - ?All is Love? - it s the cosmic that holds this Universe together, so to consciously absorb Divine Love into our cells and energy fields, will nourish us in ecstasy. IT?S THE FLOW FROM SOURCE OF DIVINE LOVE, WISDOM AND POWER INTO OUR CELLS, which is very yummy!!!!

Currently enjoying reading Charles Haanel?s ?Master Key System? a book I?ve always wanted to get around to reading and thought I would provide this pertinent quote



?I built up an affirmation for myself, taking the qualities I most needed, and affirming for
myself over and over again, "I am whole, perfect, strong, powerful, loving, harmonious and happy." I kept up this affirmation, always the same, never varying, till I could wake up in the night and find myself repeating, "I am whole, perfect, strong, powerful, loving, harmonious and happy." It was the last thing on my lips at night and the first thing in the morning. If there is anything you require, it will be well for you to make use of this affirmation; The principle which gives the thought the dynamic power to correlate with its object, and therefore to master every adverse human experience, is the law of attraction, which is another name for love. This is an eternal and fundamental principle, inherent in all things, in every system of Philosophy, in every Religion, and in every Science. There is no getting away from the law of love. It is feeling that imparts vitality to thought. Feeling is desire, and desire is love. Thought impregnated with love becomes invincible.
We find this truth emphasized wherever the power of thought is understood, The
Universal Mind is not only Intelligence, but it is substance, and this substance is the
attractive force which brings electrons together by the law of attraction so that they form
atoms; the atoms in turn are brought together by the same law and form molecules;
molecules take objective forms; and so we find that the law of love is the creative force behind every manifestation, not only of atoms, but of worlds, of the Universe, of everything of which the imagination can form any conception.?

It?s a great book full of pearls of wisdom.


Thanks for all posts Hara, Ricklff, Draginvry, Jordan etc. it is so great to have a forum like this to share

Malika

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Draginvry



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Information Reply with quote

RICKLFF wrote:

What is/was your source of information ?


My body. I've spent many years doing unusual and dangerous experiments with eating. And in many cases, non-eating.

I find the best way to obtain information is getting down and dirty with some real science.
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RICKLFF



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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: Information Reply with quote

My best source of information is also my personal experience.
I think that it's the only way to really learn something: Experience.
As I experiment something and I receive the feed-back from my body, I learn what is the truth for my body, that is, what is in harmony with it.

Namaste


Draginvry wrote:
RICKLFF wrote:

What is/was your source of information ?


My body. I've spent many years doing unusual and dangerous experiments with eating. And in many cases, non-eating.

I find the best way to obtain information is getting down and dirty with some real science.
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Malika



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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hilton Homea says in his most enlightening and inspiring book. Man?s Higher Consciousness that modern man has slowly descended through the five stages 1. Breatharianism; 2. Liquidarianism; 3.Fruitarianism; 4.Vegetariaism; 5. Carnivorism, to quote from that book: ?Man?s traditional ?Fall? occurred when he migrated to the lower levels, where he found fruit growing and ate thereof ? an event symbolised by eating the apple .... Man as Breatharian received all his substance of the Cosmos directly through his Air (Spititual) Organs, and thus functioned on the Spiritual Plane while dwelling in the Material World. His spiritual capacity and faculty to function on the Spiritual Plane failed in direct ratio as his body changed and became more material through the internal changes suffered by his organs as a result of the body?s adapting itself to the evil influences which it could not control, and which it was forced to endure or die.

?As a Breatharian man?s alimentary tract was rudimentary and his lung capacity was much larger than now. The lungs decreased in size as eating forced the development of the alimentary tract and reduced the capacity of the air organs, because eating reduced the need for ?cosmic food.? From its original state of Breatharianism the body gradually changed through the ages and declined to its present state of Gluttarianism. The Body has changed from a Superior Substance to an inferior Entity that subsists largely on the on the gross products of materialistic substances.?

It seems then that over eons of time with this ?fall from God? we evolved a physical body with teeth, taste buds, organs for digestion to mirror our consciousness of being in a material state simply to adapt to survival on Earth where a loving Creator provided fruits in their natural state. And the body and all its organs including a digestive system designed to consume physical food is a marvel in itself, indeed our physical body is our temple that houses our spirit in which we enjoy being in a physical state and the earthly pleasures that can bring. But our physical bio-system was never designed to deal with the saturation of chemicals and toxins present in our typical processed supermarket food, in our water, in the air, in our cleaning products. So having forgotten our true spiritual heritage people believe the physical body is designed for eating and on one level as just explained it is. And so today we live in a society that has limited ideas about where nutrition can come from and obsessed with food and all the socialisation around the eating of food.

We still hold the cellular memory of being sustained by Cosmic Radiation, free from ingesting physical food, and I have devised my own personal program to reawaken this, and share it here should it help anyone: Address your Inner Guidance and say with great sincerity ?I ask you recall a time when in a physical state my cells were nourished solely by the Prana Flow/Cosmic Radiation/Gods Light (use whatever term feels right for you) providing me with optimum nutrition and for this memory to be now permanently imprinted into my cellular memory on a full conscious level NOW! Thank You! So it is, so it is, so it is, and shall always be.?

If done properly only needs to said once, short form mantra:
?Prana nourishment memory activate Now!

Have no doubt we have the power to do this, we are the Masters of our cellular structure and as well as reading books to gain particular information we can empower ourselves further by simply tapping into and accessing gifts and talents we have stored away from past lives and future lives in the understanding of simultaneous time, such as yogi lifetimes, maybe an expert at tuning your energy flows, shape shifting abilities, a gifted healer, a well-trained tantric lover!, whatever, many of these amazing abilities we have are not known to us on a conscious level, however, all we have to do to retrieve our latent abilities lost in the mists of time and bring into conscious awareness in the Now IS ASK!

Also we can just meditate with intention for these higher abilities to be brought into our conscious awareness, for example Hilton Hotema in that book writes about 5 spiritual centres located in skull and sinus area called the ?golden bowl? that are higher spiritual centres for absorbing the cosmic particles dormant in most people, firstly I would like to meditate if they do exist, as I know we shouldn?t taken every we read as gospel, and secondly if they do to activate them.

Malika


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